William M. Greene and Karen M. Greene are both citizens of
the United States of America.  We have spent the last eight
years as members of America’s many homeless truck drivers
on wheels, living in the truck we worked out of while
maintaining a legal postal address of PO Box 279,
Voorheesville, NY 12186.  We had been allowed to stay at
Karen's mother's home (prior to her moving into senior
housing) whenever we would come off the road for a time.  
After that, we would either stay at Karen's brother's house or
at hotels and one friend took pity on us and allowed us to stay
at his mother's home while it was up for sale.  After that, all we
had was the truck, but then when our truck was repossessed
too because we don't have the right to work, we didn't even
have the truck to live in.  We eventually sold our car and
bought a cheaper car and a small camper so we were not on
the streets and our fight went on from there.  I mean, we're in
an apartment now, but that is how it all began.

William is a 59 year-old father and grandfather, and Karen is a
49 year-old mother and grandmother. Neither William nor
Karen have ever been convicted of anything greater than a
traffic infraction, and one of the central features of our
complaint is that after
Karen was fined $5000.00 for writing a
letter to the IRS, the IRS further retaliated against us by
interfering with Karen's "Right to Contract" which put us out of
work.  

Although peonage is unconstitutional in the context of
Article 1
§ 2(3) and an Article 1 § 8(1) pursuant to Article 1 § 9(4) and
criminal in the context of
18 USC § 1581 and 42 USC § 1994
the District Court had denied our request for Injunctive Relief
to allow us to return to work so that we can begin to pay our
bills again and feed ourselves and our son as the case
proceeds and, ultimately the United States Court of Appeals
for the Second Circuit issued its
October 29, 2009 MANDATE
in support of the actions of the IRS.

As members of We The People (WTP) Foundation, we (the
Greene's) had been exercising our First Amendment Right of
the People to hold the Government and Government
Contractors accountable to the Constitution regarding (1) the
IRS’s (as the Government's Contractor) apparent
violations
involving the tax clauses (by the direct un-apportioned tax on
the labor of the average American), and the Government's
apparent violations of (2)
the War Powers Clauses (by the Iraq
Resolution), (3) the privacy and due process clauses (by the
U.
S.A. Patriot Act), (4) the money and debt limiting clauses (by
the Federal Reserve System) of the Constitution, (5) the
President's failure to "faithfully execute" the immigration laws
(
Illegal Immigration), (6) regarding the North American Union,
(7)
Gun Control, (8) U.S Aid to Israel, and (9) were proactive in
the national distribution of a Freedom Flyer (
Side #1 & Side
#2) to encourage other truck drivers to contact WTP
Organization for the purposes of developing a new Petition
involving constitutional torts regularly experienced in the
trucking industry.

Both of us (the Greene's) were also signed onto WTP
Foundation’s original historic Right-to-Petition Lawsuit
(
Plaintiffs #1084 and #1085) against the United States of
America, the U.S. Treasury Department, the Internal Revenue
Service, and the U.S. Department of Justice; We the People v.
United States (
USDC Case No. 04-cv-01211), and following
the District Court having dismissed plaintiffs’ complaint (
We
The People v. United States, No. 04-cv-1211, slip op. at 6 (D.D.
C. Aug. 31, 2005)) and thereby essentially voiding the First
Amendment Petition clause by ruling that the First Amendment
does not provide plaintiffs with the right to receive a
government response to or official consideration of their
petitions (Id. at 2-3) and also concluding that the Anti-
Injunction Act bars plaintiffs’ claim for injunctive relief with
respect to the collection of taxes (Id. at 5 (citing 26 U.S.C. §
7421)), both Plaintiffs remained as Appellants in
the Appeal
and based upon the decision (485 F.3d 140 (D.C. Cir. 2007),
with rehearing en banc denied (Aug. 3, 2007), Writs of
Certiorari were filed in a timely manner (Dockets Number 07-
680 & 07-681) with Petitions for Writ of Certiorari denied as
well (January 7, 2008), WTP Foundation submitted the final
appeal, the Petition for Rehearing of Order Denying Petition
for a Writ of Certiorari which
SCOTUS, without comment, on
February 25, 2008, voted to not hear in spite of the
Constitutional duty to declare the meaning of the last ten
words of the First Amendment and provide relief for those of
us who contend that recent IRS administrative actions taken
against them under the Color of Law are retaliatory with
respect to our guaranteed First Amendment Right to Petition
for a Redress of Grievances to hold the Government
accountable to the Constitution.  




On April 13, 2000, for example, the major points expressed in
WTP Organization’s Petition for a Redress of Grievances
concerning the alleged illegal operations of the federal income
tax system and the IRS was hand delivered to leaders of the
three branches of the federal government by a group of citizen-
delegates representing all 50 states, and on April 2, 2001,
Robert Schulz, Chairman and founder of WTP Organization,
requested that he be allowed to testify at the April 5, 2001,
Senate Finance Committee hearing, under the chairmanship
of Senator Charles Grassley, which was a hearing specifically
to warn taxpayers about illegal tax schemes, scams, and cons.  
After which, Robert Schulz was informed that he would not be
allowed to testify but was informed that if WTP Organization
submitted a written statement the Committee would decide
whether it would be added to the official record of the hearing.  
Robert Schulz followed-up on this advice by mailing the
statement to the Senate Finance Committee,  which directly
incorporated a shortened version (with reference to full-length
version) of Larkin Rose’s March 6, 2001 letter to Attorney
General John Ashcroff.  Before the April 5, 2001 hearing
began, WTP Organization also submitted the required number
of copies for the record of the hearing, which had twenty (20)
exhibits attached to it, and although Robert Schulz’s statement
was attached to the official record of the Senate Finance
Committee hearing  as pp. 117-124, and because, none of the
exhibits were included in the record, the Greene's have put
forth in their suit that the suppression of evidence might
constitute a crime in terms of 18 U.S.C. 1505 (i.e., Obstruction
of proceedings before departments, agencies, and
committees), because among those attachment was included a
copy of a letter from Senator Inouye’s office, dated June 26,
1989 and a copy of WTP Organization’s letter to
Commissioner Rossotti, which included a copy of
Sen. Inouye’s
letter  which reads in part:

"…I am writing in further response to your inquiry
regarding the precise provisions of the Internal
Revenue Code (IRS [sic]) that render an individual liable
for income taxes…Based on the research performed by
the Congressional Research Service, there is no
provision which specifically and unequivocally requires
an individual to pay income taxes."

After the IRS put us (the Greene's) out of work, Jeff Maehr
(
thematrixhasyou.org, thecountyguard.org, purehealthsystems.
com, etc.) and LegalBear (legalbears.com) provided some
important evidence that clarified the fact that the IRS was NOT
an actual Agency of the United States.   After which, Loma
Wharton (
theliberators11.org, (theliberators in action)
forwarded the Greene's a large file containing Chuck Conces’
work (
#1 & #2) which also presented the same evidence that
the IRS is NOT an Agency of the United States.

We were so impressed with Chuck Conces’ work that review of
this information dissuaded us from writing another RICO, and
together, they were the four people (Jeff, LegalBear, Loma,
Chuck’s work) who suggested that we consider another type of
action which may be of benefit to society as a whole.

Chuck Conces’ work is very impressive because his early work
reminded us of the idealism of our youth where the object of
one’s belief systems about government is to assume a John F.
Kennedy stance where one assumes that “there is nothing so
wrong with government that what’s right with government can’t
ultimately correct” (not exact quote) is meaningful.  Moreover,
in terms of the very few people who are not just talking the talk
but rather walking the walk, we see the same kind of, for a lack
of a better term, absolute idealism, in Loma Wharton’s
approach to clean government in terms of her election goals at
the county level.

But back to the point, it was Chuck Conces’ work which
suggested that one should claim the status of a "private
attorney general" and with that we reworked what they had
been writing as a suit against the IRS and not the US
Government, in which the actions of the IRS, as a government
contractor, is violating the US Constitution and the US
Government's laws.  In the process of trying to learn enough to
maintain a suit like this of course, we turned to the Forums and
one of the people from the old
legality-of-income-tax/ groups
and was very happy to come across others like
Spartacus
Rex/Vivus_Spartacus who always appeared to be very
knowledgeable.  And as a final note, of course, there is always
"
petes farms" who is always posting in the attempt to help
others and can be found to be submitting everything from
pertinent case decisions, astronomy and organic gardening as
well as anything in between, and according to him he was one
of the people offering legal advice to Chuck.

Anyway,as the case proceeded, we (the Greene's) seemed to
have been experiencing something similar to that which was
done to Chuck Conces when he filed his Qui Tam and the
courts didn’t want to recognize that his initial suit wasn’t
against the government, but rather the IRS.  The way we saw
it, Chuck quickly started naming the government, but with the
help of others maybe we can do it right.  Of course, with the
IRS Notice of Levys placed against any existing bank accounts
every few months it was impossible to maintain anything like a
normal checking account, so we will forever be indebted to
Bob and Judy Schulz who gave us the $455.00 needed to file
the Notice of Interlocutory Appeal and
LegalBear who payed
for our monthly VersusLaw Account which allowed us access
to VersusLaw's search of case law in support of our case.  

On July 21, 2008 one young lady,
Lou from south Arizona
donated $10.00 via PayPal.  While this might not seem like
much, it was the very first donation which came from a person
who had a great need too, and yes, even though it was only a
"few bucks" as she called it, it did help, and for these reasons
we feel moved to offer a special "Thank you!!!"

Finally, our thanks also goes out to "
Nick" who helped us with
the Interlocutory Appeal which was filed on August 4th at the
United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.  In this
respect, we felt very lost to say the least because we couldn't
even understand some of the terms being used on the Forms,
let alone understand some of the questions being asked, and
Nick went to a very great length to help us, even on the day he
was supposed to be spending time with his wife to celebrate
their anniversary.  We mean, Nick spent several hours per day
for a couple of days in a row in the effort to help us, and in this
day and age for someone to be so very kind it is a very rare
experience indeed.

At this point, of course, the United States Court of Appeals for
the 2nd Circuit issued its
October 6 2009 SUMMARY ORDER
which was further solidified by its
October 29, 2009 MANDATE
in support of the actions of the IRS.
 References for further
study include
www.greenes.us/index.html, as well as www.
greenes.
us/aboutus.html, www.greenes.us/notanagency.html,
www.greenes.us/truckdrivers.html, www.greenes.
us/karenspage.
html, www.greenes.us/karensmessage.html,
www.greenes.us/Billspage.html, www.greenes.us/services.html,
www.greenes.us/contactus.html, www.greenes.us/truth_attack.
html
, www.greenes.us/civildocket.html, www.greenes.us/Donate.
html
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